Upload or insert images from URL. Discussion board for World War 1 reenactors. helmet Bowl-shaped steel helmet showing remains of crude dappled camouflage colours of light brown and mid-green on an apple green field. By holding a British shell in one hand and an American shell in the other the weight difference is obvious. Click to enlarge the picture 04-08-2013, 01:49 AM#4 homerj109 Re: Help Identifying Brodie Helmet Here is an image ( sorry for bad quality) There are 3 letters painted on the front i think it could be either one of these combinations: Original Canadian WWII Named 1941 MkI Brodie Helmet by General Steel dailyinfo[14]=' 16511 Private Albert COLEMAN "D" Coy. 5th Bde.
A-125-2 ID IN SHELL (HG-43) WWII GERMAN SS M-42 HELMET IN ORIGINAL SHIPPING CRATE. UK. Manufacturing Co - Philadelphia - Pennsylvania. : Brodie helmets. Northamptonshire Regiment who died 14/03/1915 LE TOURET MEMORIAL France '
Some form of identification may be required if you are unknown to us. Is it a BEF or US helmet? Antique World War II helmet stamped and dated 1942 Canadian Army Brodie helmet made by General Steel Wares of Toronto shopatlanticcanada (133) $191.29 Vintage WWII Army Helmet 1940s Canadian Brodie MKII WyrembelskisVintage (1,643) $165.00 vintage army metal doughboy helmet IronCharlie (31) $345.00 FREE shipping IMP. Moreover, many Commonwealth nations and other countries associated with Britain such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada and South Africa began producing their own versions in the interwar years, while adapted versions of the Brodie were also used in some civilian settings in Britain, notably by the police and fire brigade. 5th Bde. Thank you for your reply. Powered by Invision Community, US WW1 and WW2 Brodie Helmets and Maker Stamps. The helmets I have seen wereUSM1 helmets, however they might have worn the Brodie pattern too earlier on. Classic cars
The American manufactures used an entirely different method to apply the paint to the helmets. Identifying a Mk.1* British Civil Defence Brodie.
If it is red paint then I would agree with Colin that fire serviceis likely, perhaps even from an RAF base. I think I have read it is thought to be another mark of Firth and sons, but that make no reason for the K. I think it is quite a common mark though. i don't know anything about brodie helmet . 3 days Left Gibson ES-330T Sunburst Electric Guitar. . I'm posting them as quick as I can wrap them up, Haven't tweeted in a while. Brodie Helmet ID? - The Trench Line Generally soldiers were still being issued cloth caps or leather headgear of a kind which offered little or no protection from modern artillery and the shrapnel which sprayed out from it. The first Brodie helmets entered service in September 1915 but the number of them being produced at this early date was so limited that they were stored in the trenches and given to individuals who were most susceptible to attacks on a given day. U.S. M2 Pathfinder camo was particularly favored by members of the 82nd.
WW1 Canadian British CEF BEF Brodie Helmet & Liner. Sign up for a new account in our community. Thanks Leon21. It's hard for me to tell without the liner, but could the helmet be American Colin? Military helmets - an introduction | Australian War Memorial The M1 was eventually used in virtually every part of the globe, certainly everywhere that fell within the American sphere of influence during the Cold War, from the Balkans to much of South America and from West Germany to Singapore. . Easiest well to tell if the shell is Brit or US is by how the chin strap bails are held in place. Good, they are MK II lugs, so that puts it in theWW2 period. Thanks for the video, i will show my step father and see if he can recognise his dad, I would think this is more likelyto be lettering on a Civil Defence unit helmet than Home Guard. Here is a good thread with a posting describing the British manufacturer codes. By Parrotman287 1 year ago. The shell is an American made M1917A1 made by the ( McCord Radiator Co ) the heat stamp number( 10C ). I looked around and could not find any listings for that steel maker. My reply to to that collector is below "If the Brodie Red stamp has the words "patent applied" then it's pre pre Aug 1916 , post Aug 1916 stamps were marked "patent no.1 18 03/16". You cannot paste images directly. By DizzyDeano96 12 months ago. Head Gear POOR MANS MILITARIA Most American helmet do have heating lot numbers. Brodie Helmet / Helmet, steel, Mark I (World War I) - YouTube This dilemmaseems to become particularly problematic for the British reenactors who after spending hundred of dollars on their kit accidentally purchase an American helmet because they dont know the difference, or for collectors who want one or the other represented in their collection. "Foyle." G. Budd Manufacturing Co. ), ( ZJ- Marks belong to Columbian Enamelling & Stamping Co. ). Available in two sizes: ABB9300-1 58 cm, US 7 (Small) ABB9300-2 61 cm, US 7 5/8 (Large) A note on sizing, larger size liner may protrude slightly from the bottom of the helmet. In fact they all look the same to me apart from the liners 5 seconds on the google http://thebrodiehelmet.weebly.com/. The design was esentially the same in WW2, but there are a number of specific differences between the two and once you recognise these differences, such as the width of the brim (wider in WW1), you find you can tell one from another very easily. dailyinfo[15]=' SS/342 Able Seaman Henry George SMITH (RFR/CH/B/5534). Helmets and Headgear, Shortly after the US declaration of war in April of 1917 the US ordered around 400,000 helmets from the British for use by, the American Expeditionary Force. The M1 became the standard issue helmet for American servicemen during the Second World War following the USs entry into the conflict in the aftermath of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour in December 1941. Here is an image ( sorry for bad quality) dailyinfo[30]=' B/469 Worker Charles BARLOW Australian Munition Worker who died 30/01/1918 NORTH SHEEN CEMETERY United Kingdom '
Canada's Brodie Seger, left, signs a fans helmet after the men's World
For instance, we are all familiar with American troops digging up foxholes to serve as make-shift beds and trenches during the Battle of the Bulge in Belgium and eastern France in the winter of 1944. It's definitely a British Mk I helmet. With New Vegas, I luckily was able to use the NCR Trooper Helmet, but there is no helmet like that in this game.
UK 155428944961. dailyinfo[2]=' 8020 Serjeant Charles POOLE "C" Coy. Pasted as rich text. The doughnut was added for the wearers comfort. Both the British and American helmets have marking stamped into the steel on the underside of the helmets skirt. the problem is that, all the war time services such as the ARP, NFS, and various Civil Defence Units as well as the Home Guard all were. The PASGT helmet was a new generation of combat helmet, being made from nineteen layers of Kevlar, a light-weight synthetic fibre material which offered higher levels of protection than the manganese-steel alloy from which the M1s had been manufactured. dailyinfo[29]=' Oberleutnant zur See Axel Carl Ludwig VON SCHOENERMARCK S.M.S. BRODIE HELMET $110. var year=mydate.getYear()
Pity the liner is missing can you tell me what shape are the chinstrap loop/lugs, are they square or have. 2nd Bn. Brodie Helmet ID? Colloquially, it was also called the shrapnel helmet or Tommy helmet, and in the United States known as a doughboy helmet. They also have a similar liner and chinstrap. The story, for many years I wanted a bog standard WW2 Cdn pattern helmet for my collection, mainly a display piece. Accordingly many countries have used the M1 themselves until recently, while a small number of countries continue to use this Second World War helmet in their armed forces. Your link has been automatically embedded. were refurbished and modified with a new leather liner and web chinstrap. Share 9 posts Mariner109 16 Gefreiter Mar 27, 2010 #1 My buddy has a Brodie Helmet which he might be offering for sale. No liner and what looks like a disintegrating pad (asbestos concern?).
liners in them, so it would not matter if you were to put an other makers liner in it as long as it's the same date as the shell. F Thomas Firth and Sons Sheffield 1916 1918, FS Thomas Firth and Sons, Sheffield sept. 1915 1919, HS Hadfields Ltd. jan. Sheffield 1916 1919, BS W Beardmore & Co. Ltd. jan. 1916 1919, A Edgar Allen and Co.Sheffield Ltd 1916 1918, HH Harrison Bros. & Howson Ltd. dec. 1915. Awesome, thanks for the replies. Adrian Blake takes a look at collecting such helmets and the huge range and variety that were in use. While the basic structure of the M1 remained relatively unchanged in the years that followed, the liner went through many different designs. The British 'Tommy'
Yet there is one piece of military headgear from the twentieth century which was used not just in the Second World War, but also in the Korean War, the Indochina or Vietnam War, the Iran-Iraq War, the Falklands War, the Yugoslav Wars, the First Gulf War and a range of smaller conflicts such as the Cambodian Civil War and several localized clashes in Central America and the Caribbean during the 1970s and the 1980s. The helmet shell is indeed a M1* with an early made Vero liner. The cover was made from the same type of cloth the sand bags the held up the trench wall were made of. and 34th Coy.
plant of Ford Motor Co of Philadelphia were they were painted and assembled. NPH The American bail is made from 12 gauge iron wire. dailyinfo[6]=' 345190 Sapper Forrest A. KNOWLES Canadian Signal Corps who died 06/03/1921 REIDS MILLS CEMETERY Canada '
The helmet was then heat cured creating a hard durable textured finish. Often American GIs used the steel cap from the M1 as a rudimentary entrenching tool to dig these foxholes. In total the steel cap, liner and the accoutrements such as the chinstrap weighed 2.85 pounds or 1.29 kgs.