I know I've gone on for a while. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. After reading on the website about this particular water-based finish, I learned that while it might dry clear, it leaves an amber color tone--just what I did not want. Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. Give it a light sanding after it dries with 220 or 240 grit sandpaper. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Sigh. If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. I could also put hot pots on the stainless. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). I am hoping this Sherwin Williams product won't yellow over time. A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. Then the next day a coat of finish. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. Do you have high ceilings ? Just just had solid white oak #2 flooring installed in my den. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. We want to stay away from adding a yellow, green, pink or orange tint to the floor. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Unfortunately, we have put our kitchen reno on hold. Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. Dry finish. think it turned out well. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. I am on info overload. I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? p.s. its been so long since I posted - Id have to read through my old posts to recall the sealer we used. Your house lay out seems very much like ours! According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. What is your installer recommending? I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. That doesn't sound like what you are after. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. White oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. less. Double cost any standard stained finish. I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. You have a special floor. WebBona AB is a family-owned, sustainably-driven company that supplies products for installing, renovating, maintaining and restoring premium floors. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. See the photo below if you open the photo you will see the raw wood. and I wish we had another layer of protection. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. This only matters for porosity not hardness. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? I need to see the seal samples still but Ill post a picture of the finished floors in a week! WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Is there another more affordable option I can try? We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? The advanced technology formula provides speed and high performance for hardwood floor finishing professionals. Has anyone applied the Bona Nordic and HD to white oak stair partsnewel posts/rails ? HELP!!! By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. Now green is having a moment in the kitchen, Understand how sunlight affects your rooms and get tips on choosing paint colors for each type of exposure, Do you love perfection or patina? Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. Yes. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. If, youre looking for a small amount. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). (followed by Traffic HD). That means a single guy can take his time. It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. Streetshoe by basics + their stain line. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. I have it in my home. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. Im very happy with them and they are exactly the look I wanted. I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. Bona Sealers on my White Oak Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. Hd and Supra extra matte does not. Whaaaaat???? bona Not always as expected. You want someone fully trained in the art of the 2-component (2K) water based system. Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. (Just read the dog drool threads.) The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. We have one big space kitchen, then dining area with doors to exterior, then the family room. I like the stains that are made by the same company that makes the finish. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? I wish people would just post the actual products they use as there are a lot of great examples but no "recipes". It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. They bring in wood from various locations. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. Let him fix it ONCE. Start reaching out to those stores that have 25+ years in the hardwood flooring industry. @Bongo. @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. I personally love Quartzite. Yeah, thats what I am realizing. My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. I read ClassicSeal is a cheaper sealer in the Bona lineup? Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. and any photos would be most appreciated I like the bona nordic white look in the 2nd photo (thats covering about 20 wood squares) is that the semi-gloss Loba, (or perhaps raw, freshly sanded parquet - that is the look i'm going for my wood finger parquet, lightened / whitewashed with the red/yellow/ambering removed and the seal to be almost matte. Your floors are as important as your roof. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? There are MUCH better systems out there - especially in the water based finishes. Can two finish coats be done in a day or should there be a day between all 3 coats? If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. When I get to see them, Ill post pics. Heres how to keep them that way, Let the sunshine in. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. I'm sorry you felt diminished. ! :), Absolutely gorgeous. A red oak floor does not need sealant. Thank you for your input. The coating should not come up. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. Thanks so much in advance!! I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? This was such a great informative thread. The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. Here are our raw floors right now. I did look at photo posts to get an idea of what product/color I was looking for as I wanted something a little more custom and different. @CEM TOSA It took me forever to decide on countertops. Did you use one or two coats of the Nordic seal? Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. And, to be fair to the above poster. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter.